Wednesday, February 7, 2018

BaZi: ZPZQ - JianLu / YueJie - RobWealth Structure

Trey's explanation:
JianLu 建禄 - literally 'building prosperity' 

In this case, 

建 Jian (building) refers to things happening in a certain month as in 建子, happening in month of Zi,
禄 Lu refers to Salary, as in 爵禄, JueLu, Salary of a certain rank of nobility 

When a certain DM is born in a certain month, without other useful gods, then only RobWealth structure can be considered


The month DM is born must be of th same element of the DM

DM.        Month
Jia           Yin
Yi.           Yin and Mao
Bing.        Si
Ding.        Si and Wu
Wu.         Si or any of the Chen Xu Chou Wei, when the dominant DHHS falls under earth
Ji.            Si and Wu or any of the earth month when DHHS is earth, same like above
Geng.       Shen
You.         Shen or You
Ren.         Hai
Gui.         Hai and Zi

For the ones listed below, it is considered YangRen structure which is different from JianLu,

Jia in Yin, Bing in Wu, Wu in Wu, Geng in You, Ren in Zi. 

Some practitioners earth has no YangRen but that is really subjective. 

The other element in the month command does not protrude or move (meaning combine in the EB).


Eg if Jia is born in Yin with protruding Bing, it is regarded as Indirect Seal structure, Protruding Wu is regarded as Indirect Wealth structure. When both are absent and another Jia protrudes, then it is considered RobWealth structure.

原文:建禄者,月建逢禄堂也,禄即是劫。
JianLu, is where the month (of birth) sees the 'Salary Hall' (can be regarded as a type of ShenSha), Lu equals to Jie (Rob Wealth).

或以禄堂透出,即可依以用者,非也。
Or if Salary Hall protrudes in HS, then it can be relied on and be used, no, that is not the case.  

故建禄与月劫,可同一格,不必加分,皆以透干支,别取财官煞食为用。
Thus, JianLu and Month RobWealth are one structure, there is no need to separate them, even if they protrude in HS, take others such as Wealth, Officer, Devil or Food as Use (the useful god)


原文:禄格用官,干头透出为奇,又要财印相随,不可孤官无辅。
For Lu structure that uses Officer, Officer protruding in the HS must be accompanied by Wealth and (or) Seal to be a good structure, a solitary Officer without assistance is not good. 

有用官而印护者,如庚戌、戊子、癸酉、癸亥,金丞相命是也。
Using Officer while being protected by Seal such as

Gui    Gui     Wu     Geng
Hai    You     Zi       Xu

Chart of prime minister Jin

有用官而财助者,如丁酉、丙午、丁巳、壬寅,李知府命是也。
Using Officer and is assisted by Wealth

Ren      Ding      Bing      Ding
Yin        Si          Wu        You

The chart of Governor Lee (approximation of the title of nobility) 

原文:有官而兼带财印者,所谓身强值三奇,尤为贵气。
When there is Officer and is accompanied by Wealth and Seal, Self is strong and it is regarded as SanQi (the three wonders), this is specially a very noble Qi.

三奇者,财官印也,只要以官隔之,使财印两不相伤,其格便大,如庚午、戊子、癸卯、丁巳,王少师命是也。
SanQi is Wealth, Officer and Seal. Officer must be in between Wealth and Seal so the two do not injure each other; this structure is much bigger, such as

Ding     Gui      Wu      Geng
Si         Mao     Zi         Wu

The chart of Grand Preceptor Wang

*Note, The Grand Preceptor, The Grand Tutor and The Grand Protector are collectively known as the Three Excellencies 三公 in ancient China. They are the highest (True first) rank (正一品) any government officer can attain. 

原文:禄劫用财,须带食伤,盖月令为劫而以财作用,二物相克,必以伤食化之,始可转劫生财,如甲子、丙子、癸丑、壬辰,张都统命是也。
When Lu or Rob Wealth uses Wealth, it must carry Food or HO, as the month command is Rob Wealth and the chart uses Wealth, the two elements counter each other, thus the outputs are necessary to solve this, they transform RobWealth into Wealth. Such as

Ren     Gui       Bing      Jia
Chen    Chou     Zi         Zi

The chart of General Zhang (都统 'loosely - general' was the among highest rank (一品) in military service in Qin dynasty)

原文:至于化劫为财,与化劫为生,尤为秀气。
As for transforming RobWealth to Wealth, it transforms disaster into an opportunity, that is especially elegant Qi. 

如己未、己巳、丁未、辛丑,丑与巳会,即以劫财之火为金局之财,安得不为大贵?
Such as

Xin     Ding     Ji      Ji 
Chou   Wei     Si      Wei

Chou and Si combine, that turns the fire that is RobWealth into the Metal structure that is Wealth, how is it not greatly noble? 


所谓化劫为财也。如高尚书命,庚子、甲申、庚子、甲申,即以劫财之金,化为生财之水,所谓化劫为生也。
For transforming Rob Wealth int Wealth, such as 

Jia       Geng        Jia        Geng
Shen     Zi          Shen        Zi

The RobWealth which is metal, is being transformed into water (that engenders Wealth). 
that is the chart of Secretary Gao (The Qin government had 6 departments, each department head is sort of like a secretary)

原文:禄劫用煞,必须制伏,如娄参政命,丁巳、壬子、癸卯、己未,壬合丁财以去其党煞,卯未会局以制伏是也。
RobWealth uses 7K, must be restrained, such as

Ji     Gui     Ren      Ding
Wei  Mao    Zi         Si

Ren combines away Ding (Wealth), which is protecting 7K while Mao and Wei combines to restraint 7K, the chart of high minister Lou

原文:至用煞而又逢财,本为不美,然能去煞存财,又成贵格。戊辰、癸亥、壬午、丙午,合煞存财,袁内阁命是也。
As for 7K that meets Wealth, is originally not good, but to (combine) away 7K and leaves Wealth, it becomes a noble structure.

Bing    Ren     Gui       Wu
Wu       Wu     Hai       Chen

7K is combined and Wealth is left, the chart of Cabinet minister Yuan

原文:其禄劫之格,无财官而用伤食,泄其太过,亦为秀气。
For RobWealth structure that has neither Wealth nor Officer but uses Food or HO to exhausts the over(ly strong DM), it is also considered elegant Qi

唯春木秋金,用之则贵,盖木逢火则明,金生水则灵。
Only for Wood born in Spring and Metal born in Autumn, using this is considered noble, as wood meets fire is bright, metal engenders water is soulful.

如张状元命,甲子、丙寅、甲子、丙寅,木火通明也;。
Like this guy's chart who got the first place in the imperial exam

Bing     Jia      Bing       Jia
Yin        Zi       Yin        Zi 

又癸卯、庚申、庚子、庚辰,金水相涵也
and  

Geng     Geng      Geng     Gui
Chen      Zi          Shen     Mao

原文:更有禄劫而官煞竞出,必取清方为贵格。
Also, there are charts where both Officer and 7K are protruding. They (DO or 7K) have to be cleared to be regarded as noble

如一平章命,辛丑、庚寅、甲辰、乙亥、合煞留这也
Such as 

Yi      Jia      Geng      Xin
Hai    Chen   Yin       Chou

7K is combined away and DO is left 

;如辛亥、庚寅、甲申、丙寅,制煞留官也。

Bing     Jia      Geng     Xin
Yin      Shen     Yin       Hai

7K is being restraint and DO is saved


原文:倘或两官竞出,亦须制伏,所谓争正官不可无伤也
Or, if two DO are protruding, they must also be restrained. As in the saying 'Competing Officers must be injured' 

原文:若夫用官而孤官无辅,格局更小,难于取贵,若透伤食便不破格。
If the structure uses DO and DO is without assistance (without Wealth or Seal), it becomes a small structure (low ranking), difficult to be regarded as noble, if HO or Food are protruding, it is regarded as broken structure.

然亦有官伤并透而贵者,何也?
But there are cases where DO is used and HO protruding that is noble, why?

如己酉、乙亥、壬戌、庚子,庚合乙而去伤存官,王总兵命也。
Such as

Geng     Ren     Yi      Ji
Zi           Xu     Hai     You

Geng combines away Yi to leave save Officer, the chart of General Wang (True second rank 正二品 ) 

原文:用财而不透伤食,便难于发端,然干头透一位而不杂,地支根多,亦可取富,但不贵耳。
Use Wealth but the outputs are not protruding, it is very difficult to be successful. If one is protruding in the HS and is not 'messy' while having many roots in the EBs, that can be regarded as wealthy but not noble.

原文:用官煞重而无制伏,运行制伏,亦可发财,但不可官煞太重,致令身危也
Use Officer or 7K but without restraint, when Luck Pillars go to restraint, one can also become wealthy, but the Officers should not be too heavy, as that endangers Self.

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8 comments:

  1. Hi Trey

    It's rotiprata from fivearts forum.

    Back at the forum you mentioned that this Ding DM chart:

    DM
    Jia Ding Wu Gui
    Chen Hai Wu Hai

    is a HO structure rather than a JianLu structure which i'm curious to find out why.

    Is it because of the Wu Hai hidden combination to form Earth(Ji in Wu and Jia in Hai)?

    Looking forward to your reply.

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  2. Hi Trey,

    Isn't JianLu a Friend structure instead of RobWealth (Yang Ren) structure? Jia meets Yin and Yi meets Mao are both in the stage of Lin Guan.

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  3. Hi Trey,

    If it is jianlu structure with officer(not rooted) and wealth(rooted) both on the HS, which one takes precedence?

    Hope you can advice, thanks!

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  4. Hi al,

    Officer takes precedence. Always in the order of officer, wealth and output then seal.

    Regards

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    1. Thanks for the reply! Looking forward to your future blog posts

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    2. Hi Trey,

      Sorry one more thing to clarify. For a jianlu structure that uses officer, it would be good to see wealth/resource in the luck pillars? And for a jianlu structure that uses wealth, then it would be good to see output stars in the luck pillars? Is it always bad to see self/rob wealth stars in the luck pillar since day master is already strong? Sorry for bombarding you with so many questions!

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  5. Hello Trey,

    What structure do you think is this:

    Hour Day Month Year
    Ren Xin Bing Bing
    Chen You Shen Chen

    Kind Regards,

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    1. Hey Gianina, just my 2 cents worth here, but should be HO structure. First, from Trey's previous post(bazi art of determining structure), Xin born in Shen steals, or borrows, HO structure. Also Ren prodrudes & causes change to HO structure in any case, plus Shen Chen is half water frame and Xin Bing Transformation, more HO Food. A quote from another Trey post, Bazi: Useful God-Climate, "Hurting Officer meeting Officer will bring about hundreds of disasters, but if Metal(DM)Water(HO) sees Officer, that becomes elegant". Autumn Metal meeting Water is termed as "Metal and Water containing each other" and is said to be elegant and soulful and is not afraid to see Officer.
      I hope Trey can comment on this.

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