Friday, April 19, 2013

BaZi: SMTH - 论正官 - Direct Officer part 2

Continuation from the previous post, SMTH discussing Direct Officer.

When there's one or two Officer, wealth is absent while Seal is present, Weak Self is okay.

若四柱皆归背禄,宜推岁运向背, 财官旺地何如?
If the four pillars all belongs to BeiLu (against Fortune), it is beneficial to look at the Luck pillar and Annual Pillar to see which is for and against, how was the LP / AP when Wealth and Officer are strong?

Trey - 背禄 BeiLu - Back against Fortune, is a classical term that refers to the outputs Food God and Hurting Officer when they are not auspicious in the chart. Such as Jia DM has Bing and Ding as BeiLu. 背 Bei means back, turning its back on something while the word 禄 Lu could means Fortune or Salary.

If the chart is full of Wealth and Officer, DM is weak, it cannot carry the burden, futile and useless, when LP goes to Wealth and Devil, causes lungs infection, if 7K is seen repeatedly on the LP, the person will have a life in prison (criminal life).

It is also said that Jia born in the month of You, Xin metal as the True Fortune (Direct Officer), if Ding Hurting Officer is seen, and there's no frame in the branches,on the branches the Hurting Officer has Qi in stages of Waning, Failing, Death and Extinction, or if there's a counter or combination that put off the Waning and Extinct (weak) Fire, how can it hurt the prosperous Fortune (Direct Officer)

Trey - If a Direct Officer structure sees a Hurting Officer protruding in the HS, it is regarded as very inauspicious, however if the Hurting Officer is weak i.e when

1. There's no frame (triple combo or half triple combo) in the branches that supports the Hurting Officer
2. In the other branches (Year, Day and Hour) Ding Fire falls into the state of very weak Qi such as the stage of Waning (Shuai), Failing (MuYu), Death (Si) or Extinction (Jue),
3. When Hurting Officer is countered or combined, e.g. Jia has Ding Fire as Hurting Officer, Gui would counter Hurting Officer, Ren would combine the Hurting Officer.

Under these circumstances, it's not possible for Hurting Officer to counter the Direct Officer.

If in the branches, the Qi for Direct Officer is weak (under the stages of Shuai, Bai, Si and Jue), an on the contrary, Ding Fire has supports from the branches or when it comes to the devil's land, it signifies demotion and the lost of job, unavoidable disasters.

The hour, is the place of return and rest, auspiciousness and inauspiciousness depends on the news at the Hour.

Trey - The Hour Pillar plays a very significant role in a BaZi chart. If we use the analogy of a tree, the year Pillar is likened to the roots of a new sprout, it's the base of a tree, a good root system will ensure the healthy growth of the tree. The month pillar is the period of sprouting to growing new branches, twigs and leaves, it signifies the development stage of the new tree. Day pillar represents the flowering period, the time when the grower anticipates the harvests. The hour pillar represents the fruits, the harvest period. It is when one gets to reap what he has sowed. Good or bad harvest depends on the hour pillar.

If the Useful God for the DM is too strong, it's beneficial for the hour to moderate; if the Useful God for the DM is weak, it's beneficial for the hour to assist Even if the pillars have some inauspicious gods, but it can be moderated by the hour pillar, it cannot become misfortune. This is an important point to be considered when reading a Life (chart).

It is also said, Jia born in the month of Chou, within there's Xin metal, also it was born in the hour of You, it is already a repetition, if in the Heaven there's many Xin metal protruding, and (the LP) goes west, (DM) strength is not capable of handling its responsibility, thus Officer turns into Ghost (7K), (7K) prosperous place will collapse, many leads to disasters and short life, there must be combination or control to make it auspicious.

Trey - This is similar to ZPZQ concept of 动静 movement and stillness, Heaven is moving and Earth is still, the only time when the earth moves is when there's a combination among the branches. Like this example, when DM Jia is born in the month of Chou, it can be a mixed Qi Direct Officer structure, when the hour pillar is You, You and Chou combines and earth moves, Direct Officer structure becomes real. When there's only one Xin metal protrudes, the chart will be considered auspicious, the Direct Officer on Heaven has strong support from the frame at the branches. But there's more than one DO in Heaven it becomes repetition, with the strong support from earth, the Officer turns into Devil, if DM strength is weak, Devil will attack DM and cause misfortune.

If DM rides on prosperity, like Jia Yin or Yi Mao days, and there's also Seal to engender and assist, abundant DO stars would not be harmful.

Jia born in the month of Xu, although it sits on fire storage, if it does not becomes a frame, or become a party, it cannot be harmful.

Trey - Xu month is fire storage, with residual Metal Qi and innate Earth Qi, In this case, metal is considered strong as fire engenders earth engenders metal. However if there's no metal frame, i.e. Shen-You-Xu, there's not party (many DOs), it cannot be regarded as harmful.

Also it is said that to use the Direct Officer star, it does not necessarily have to come from the Month Decree; the Month Stem, or Year and Day Stems or branches, there's only one place (with DO) exists, and its not broken or injured, it can be used (as the Useful God).

Trey - There's an old system that tries to establish charts as Officer structures first before considering other structures, reason being Officer is the leader of the gods.

As the old classics says: If the apparent stems has Qi, take it from the apparent stems, if the apparent stems has no Qi, take it from the obscurity. If the apparent stem has no Qi , (DO exists) only in the branches, or if there's support (for DO), when the LP goes to a good place, it will not reduce the fortune of the Officer star that is in the month branch.

This paragraph talks about the DO in the month branch, if Officer is not seen on the stems, it can be taken from the month EB, as long as it has support, it can still be an auspicious chart.

Also it is said that for DO (structure), if one Food God is seen sitting strongly, that will damage the structure, unless the DO is hidden in the Month Decree, seeing Food God will be regarded as the Three Wonders (SanQi). Largely, the strength of the Officer or Food has to be determined, if the Officer star sits strongly, the combination god unreal (weak), then it would follow the Officer to assist nobility; if the combination god sits strongly, Officer star is weak, it will follow the combination god, being greedy of combination and forgets Officer.

Trey - This tells that Officer star does not like to see Food on the Stems because Food can combine with Officer, for example a Jia DM uses Xin as Officer, Bing as Food, Bing Xin combination is the combination between Food and Officer. If it combines, it has to be seen which of the two gods has more support from the roots. If Officer has more support, it is considered auspicious and vice versa

This could also explain the resultant element listed in ZPSYJD.

For example, Jia uses Bing as Food and Xin as Officer, if Jia is born in the month of Si, Bing and Xin combination will transform to Fire instead of Water according to the classics. In this case, Officer will only be gone after combination.

On the other hand, if Jia is born in the month You, with Xin and Bing protruding, Xin will combine with Bing to Metal, which can only strengthen metal. IMO that is what the text above meant.

It is also said, if it's a Direct Officer structure, LP should undergo Seal, which is Seeing Officer must look at Seal, this must be according to the strength of Officer, DM and Seal, if DM is weak, Seal is weak, then the Seal must be supported, if Self is strong and DO is weak, then DO must be supported. Undergo Hurting Officer LP is BeiLu, (turning against the Fortune), going through Self prosperous Luck would be ZhuMa (chasing after the Horse)

Trey - 背禄逐马 BeiLu ZhuMa, turning against the Officer and chasing the Horse is a BaZi saying that indicates conditions that cause damage to the Officer (Fortune) and Wealth (Horse). 背禄 BeiLu refers to a strong DM with a strong output, consequently output would harm the Officer, while 逐马 ZhuMa refers to a strong DM with a strong Parallel or, RobWealth.

Okay, that's all for today's post. More translations coming soon.


  1. Hi Trey, you seem very well versed in Bazi, do you think you can help read my chart?

  2. what do you think about this chart?when will I have luck?what is mean when the same dm is the same with annyal pillar
    10 december 1987 8:10 am

    bing gui ren ding
    chen si zi mao
    will I be a succesful bussinesmna?

  3. Hi Anonymous #1,

    I am just a student, my interpretation of BaZi could be bad weather forecast. if you don't mind that I'll be glad to help

  4. Hi Anonymous #2,

    That is a Rob Wealth structure that uses Wealth, the structure desires output to transform rob wealth into output and output will be transformed into wealth. When the HS of the Annual Pillar or Luck Pillars are made of wood, those are the times for you. Yes you will become a successful businessman with consistent diligence. My advice is if you fail, do not give up, the Ding Ren combination might rob the wealth away but it could also transform to wood, which is what the chart needs, besides the hour pillar of the chart shows a promising future for you.

  5. thanks my name zanoschi george add me on facebook

  6. so tell me I am weak or strong water
    ?last year was an though year loose my control and discipline...this year it`s better I study medicine and finish this year...I will not profess...I want to do a second university pharmacy to take my father`s factories...I choose this way in my life...learn medicine,after this to do pharmacy to make alot of pharmacy field?what do you think I am suit for this?I am very stresfull becuase of relation with my father...
    Best Wishes,
    Zanoschi George

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  8. Hi Trey,

    I'm Anonymous #1, thank you for willing to help read my chart.

    My chart is in the below link

    Would like to know what you can read from my chart, especially in the areas of wealth and relationship in the future. Thank you so much once again.

  9. Hi i am gui si dm:)Mr.George

    I had an last question when I will have real money...since now I don`t have any power and the biggest problem for me is that I have almost 26 is unacceptable for me

    Best wishes,

  10. I have a question about direct officer structure:
    for a female chart, which has 3 DO in earthly branches 8hour, month and year). What can be said about?