Monday, September 23, 2013

BaZi: SMTH - 论偏官 Discussing Indirect Officer final part

I'm down with cold today, :(

This final part of the chapter is a collection of classical poems that discuss about 7K.

《继善篇》云:身强煞浅,假煞为权,煞重身轻,终身有损。
Ju Shan Pian says: Strong Self with shallow Devil, that fake devil can become authority, heavy devil with light self, whole life is damaged.


《定真》云:七煞如逢财助,其煞愈凶。
Ding Zhen says: if 7K is assisted by wealth, it becomes even more inauspicious.


又云:刃为兵器,无煞难存,煞为军令,无刃不尊,刃煞两显,威镇乾坤。
It also says: Blade is a weapon, without devil it is difficult keep, Devil is the military command, without Blade it does not get respect, Blade and Devil if both are prominent, its mightiness can conquer the world.


《四言》云:煞不离印,印不离煞,煞印相生,功名显达。
Si Bu says: Devil does not part with Seal, Seal does not part with Devil, Devil and Seal mutually engendering, bring about prominent success.


《妙选赋》云:煞为武艺,印为文华,有煞无印欠文彩,有印无煞欠威风。绝妙!煞印双全,宜其文武两备。
Miao Xuan says: Devil as martial prowess, Seal as literary talents, with devil without Seal denotes lacks academic accomplishment, with Seal without Devil lacks awe-inspiring authority. With Devil and Seal together, means having both martial and literary skills.


《幽玄赋》云:七煞遇长生之位,女招贵夫。
You Xuan says: 7K seeing ChangSheng place, Woman will get a noble husband.


《络绎赋》云:煞临子位,必招悖逆之儿。
Luo Yi says: Devil arrives on Zi place, will get a rebellios son.


《千里马》云七煞有制亦多儿。.
Qian Li Ma says: 7K that is restrained, many children.


《相心赋》云:偏官七煞,势压三公,喜酒色而偏争好斗,受轩昂而扶弱欺强,性情如虎,急躁如风。
Xiang Xin says: Indirect Officer 7K, its intensity can pressure the three excellencies (??), likes to drinking alcohol and likes to fight and compete, if it is dignified, it assists the weak and bully the strong, its temperament is like tiger, impetuous like wind.


古歌云:
Old Songs say:


偏官不可例言凶,有制还他衣禄丰,干上食神支带合,儿孙满眼受褒封。
Indirect Officer does not necessarily means inauspicious, with restrain clothing and fortune can be plentiful, on HS if Food God matches, there will be many children and grandchildren of honor.


又:身逢七煞是提纲,只为干衰大受伤,正禄交差刑煞入,终身不免受凶殃。
Also: Self meeting 7K is the keypoint, when Stem (DM) is weak it greatly injures, if the True Fortune (DO) crosses path entering 7K is like punishment, one's life cannot be free from disaster and misfortune.


又:七煞提纲本是愁,只因驯服喜无忧,平生正直无邪曲,职位当封万户侯。
Also: 7K as the keypoint is basically worrisome, but when it is trained than it is pleasant and no longer worrisome, one's life will be just and without demonic tune, his ranking will be high as lord of a thousand houses.


又:月位偏官本煞神,有制还居一品尊"。俨若自身荣贵晚,也须为福及儿孙。
Also: Indirect Officer on the Month is Devil spirit, if there is restrain one's status is as high as the first class officials. If one's dignity and glory is achieved late in life, he will become the blessings of his children and grandchildren.


又:月支偏官最忌冲,伤官羊刃喜相逢,日干旺相皆为贵,制伏无过百事通。
Also: Month EB Indirect Officer must not be clashed, HO and YR are both pleasant to be seen, If DM is prosperous or strong it is regarded as noble, if the restrain is not too over, hundred matters will be smooth.


又:身弱煞强无制神,多生灾祸不堪论,那堪更入官旺地,耽疾遭刑丧此身。
Also: Self is weak and devil is strong and without restraining god, the life will be full of disasters and misfortune,


又:甲乙之煞露庚辛,月中水木喜加临,运行木火兴名利,水运行来怕火金。
Also: Jia and Yi's Devil is exposed Geng and Xin, inside Month (EB) Water and Wood are pleasant to be seen, when Luck goes to wood and fire it flourishes reputation and benefits, when water Luck comes it is afraid of Fire and Metal.


又:丙丁五月重逢煞,木火来临大有功,金水运行身有祸,子来冲破最为凶。
Also: Bing and Ding on the fifth month Devil is seen repeatedly, the coming wood and fire brings great success, undergoing metal and water cause misfortune to self, When Zi comes to clash it is most inauspicious.


又:六乙生逢巳酉丑,局中却忌财星守,忽然行运到金乡,管取平生寿不久。
Also: 6 Yis born to see Si You and Chou, within the frame it is dreadful for Wealth star to protect (7K), if suddenly Luck moves to Metal place, one's longevity will not be too long.


又:庚日全逢寅午戌,天干透土始为祥,重重火旺声名显,命里休囚忌水乡。
Also: Geng day seeing all Yin Wu Xu, on heaven protruding earth is propitious, one fire after another give rise to reputation, if life is at rest or trapped, water place is dreaded.


又:六丙生人亥子多,煞星归印反中和,东方行运功名显,运至西方事转磨。
Also 6 Bing person seeing many Hai and Zi, Devil star returns to Seal is instead in harmony, eastern Luck brings about success and reputation, western luck will turn things to difficulties.


又:阴水多逢巳字伤,煞星需要木来降,纵然名利能高显,只恐平生寿不长。
Also: Yin water seeing many Si character is injured, Devil star must be restrained by Wood, only then one's reputation and benefits can be prominent, but it's afraid that one's longevity will not be long.


又:土逢卯位三合全,不忌当生金水缠,火木旺乡名利显,再行坤坎祸绵绵。
Also: Earth seeing Mao place with a complete triple combination, it does not fear being wrapped by metal and water, at places where fire and wood prosperous will get reputation and benefits, but going through Kun and Kan disasters will come one after another.


又,甲乙若逢申,喜印暗相生,水旺金也旺,官袍必挂身。
Also: If Jia and Yi see Shen, they like to be obscurely engendered by Seal, if water and metal are both prosperous, one will become a government official.


又:甲乙生寅月,金多反吉昌,不宜重见水,火土是衣粮。
AlsoL Jia and Yi born in Yin month, abundant metal is instead auspicious, but seeing water repeatedly is not beneficial, fire and earth are clothes and grains.

10 comments:

  1. Thank you Trey! That was very valuable for me! But may I ask you something- what is meant by "death" and "seal" (unaucpisious power?)and "devil star"(unfavourable element?)?
    Stay healthy!

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  2. Dear Agnes,

    You are most welcome :)

    Death usually refers to the 12 Qi stages Death like Wood is dead at Wu, you can refer to the 12 Qi stages article here

    http://treybazi.blogspot.com/2013/01/twelve-qi-stages.html

    Seal, in this blog means the element that engenders DM. I use a different English name for the gods because I translate literally from Chinese.

    Here is the reference:
    http://treybazi.blogspot.com/2013/02/bazi-names-of-ten-gods-in-english.html

    Devil Star simply means 7K

    Thanks a lot for reading the blog and the get well wish! :)

    Regards
    Trey

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  3. Thanks again Trey! I was really doubting about the 12 Qi stages, and you gave me the support. I will follow your links for the other unknowns.
    Regards!

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  4. Hi Trey,

    I'm confused by this sentence
    "《幽玄赋》云:七煞遇长生之位,女招贵夫。"

    I'm reading a chart, mind offering some advice?

    The chart (woman) :-

    Hour Day Month Year
    癸 戊 辛 己
    亥 寅 未 巳

    The only Spouse Star is 寅, the 7K, and it's in the Spouse Palace.

    I read somewhere a woman with the 7K in day branch won't be getting a good husband or it's the husband's 2nd marriage or the husband wouldn't be able to stay together with her always.

    Having 食神 (EG) could sort this out but none in the chart. Heard that marrying a very much older husband can balance out the negative impact as well.

    Anyway, now 寅 is also the 长生, meaning 7K is on the 长生, so could it improve the situation?

    Also, I can notice 亥寅相合, so can I say 7K won't be as strong as it's supposed to? but the combination produces wood element as well. Oh, I'm confused...

    Many thanks!

    by : Jeong

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    1. Dear Jeong,

      I'm not good at analyzing a woman's marriage.

      anyway,

      Wu uses Yi as true husband, Jia as indirect husband, Yi is buried in Wei, covered on top by Xin. Yi is inactive. If she were to get a 'proper' husband, he most probably wont do well.

      The indirect husband star is Jia, which ChangSheng in Hai, JianLu in Yin, this 'improper' husband star is strong.

      Jia uses Xin as Officer, Ji as Direct Wealth, Gui as Direct Seal. The woman's chart has everything needed to make her indirect husband successful. She 旺夫 prospers the indirect husband.

      As her marriage palace is in combination with Hai, her indirect husband should be someone quite comfortable and be in a good relationship with her.

      Marry a divorcee, a guy from somewhere far away, non traditional marriage, marry and divorce and remarry. I don't know how to activate the Indirect husband star.

      Regards
      Trey

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  5. Hey Trey your last para is funny. Anyway that's my chart. I'm reading my own chart. why I just can't go with a proper one! at the age of 24, so young but seriously I'm looking for an improper one. Sometimes I'm thinking whether I'm superstitious.. thank you so much. Thanks

    Jeong

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    1. BaZi is HO structure .Luck strongly on HO will not get good guys.

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  6. Dear Jeong,

    Most capable women would expect a good bit from their other halves.

    Lots of luck.

    Regards
    Trey

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  7. Hi Trey,

    Thank you so much for all your postings, I know how grueling and tedious translating Chinese can be, but your effort is much appreciated, I love coming to your blog!

    I was wondering, can you please help me sort out my chart, I'm having difficulty determining what's beneficial and what's not, in terms of 7K
    My chart...

    Hour Day Month Year Current LP
    Geng Yi Jia Wu Ding
    Chen Chou Yin Chen Si

    Does the (overabundance?) of Wealth assist the 7K protruding from Day EB?

    I'm also not sure if the Bing, either from LP or from Month EB will combine away the Xin 7K, or it can just tame it ... Am i right to think that I need the Fire?
    Or, because my Yi and Jia are both rooted and prosperous, that they can stand to be a little kept-under-check, and so then I'd rather need Water to make sure Fire doesn't control Metal?

    Finally, what does it mean that Jia and Yi in Shen like to be "secretly engendered by Seal"?

    Sorry for many questions, I know you're busy you don't have to answer all, just if you could please provide any insight that'd be wonderful,

    Thanks!

    Ander

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    1. Hi Ander,

      Geng Yi Jia Wu
      Chen Chou Yin Chen

      Yi + Geng is supposed to transform to metal, but this DM is born in Spring where wood is prosperous.

      This is a tricky chart, more likely an inverted structure 返象

      I would agree with you that fire is favorable for wood born in Spring, since Geng metal has probably lost its Officer nature.

      Regards
      Trey

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